Harm
Harm (person who gambled perspective)

Finances

Financial harm is central for those affected by someone else’s gambling. This is especially so when finances where shared or dependent such as partners or children. Parents or siblings also often found themselves having to financially support or ‘bail out’ the gambler. Affected others can end up going without, paying off debt or getting into debt themselves or even losing homes.

Affected others often feel conflicted, concerned that they are continuing the gambling difficulties but worried about the serious consequences if they do not. Alternately, they may feel pressured or coerced or that they have no choice if they want to keep the household going. The money issues cause stress and undermine relationships. Gambling can deteriorate the financial position of several households in a family.

The affected others have no role in the financial harm but are left trying to deal with it. This means the actions of gambling companies, financial services and bankruptcy and criminal justice processes seem especially unjust.

Those payday loan people, they’re all linked to the gambling. That wouldn’t have happened, I don’t believe, had he not have so much gambling debt. You almost feel like you’ve been sucked into that world as well. It’s like you almost feel you’re a little bit tainted by it. The idea that it used to make me so angry, and it still does whenever I think about it, but I would pay thousands of pounds to people, payday loan companies. To me, they’re criminals. They prey on the most vulnerable people. I was physically sick that I was giving these people money. I knew I didn’t have a choice, because I could see what it was doing to him.

During

Affected others experience harm from the drain on daily finances, savings and debt. The situation typically escalates as the person who gambles spends increasing amounts of their income on gambling and then begins using credit facilities. This progresses through overdrafts, multiple credit cards, and high-interest payday loans. As the debts accumulated, family members and partners frequently stepped in to help, lending money to the person who gambled to cover debts. In many cases, the full extent of the gambling-related debts was hidden from those affected until the gambler reached a crisis, such as facing unmanageable debt levels or bankruptcy.

In some cases, when the person who gambled credit rating deteriorated, affected others would take out credit cards in their own names to help. Affected others frequently experience financial difficulties, such as struggling to cover daily living expenses and utilities. Some had to rely on family and friends for financial support and had to cut back on necessities. A common consequence was the erosion of savings.

They were sometimes led to drastic measures, such as having to re-mortgage their homes to manage the financial burden. Close family and partners often find themselves caught in a cycle of trying to alleviate the financial strain caused by gambling, which affected the entire family.

Parents and siblings

Parents can find themselves providing financial assistance to their children, either by lending them money or paying off their debts directly. These parents often experience feelings of guilt or conflict as to whether their financial support is ‘enabling’ their child’s gambling behaviour. However, often, their primary concern is for their child’s safety and well-being. This was especially when they feared their child might take their own life.

If you remove everything from an addict, they will find a way to get what they need. He would either be in prison now, or dead now. As a parent, the payoff for us financially was huge, but as a mum, the payoff financially is nothing… I find that other people can be quite judgmental when they don’t understand addiction. They think it’s a simple case of, “Well, just take it away.” It’s not that simple. Taking the addiction away has a repercussion, which is dangerous.

What I was doing was, basically, I was enabling him because I was helping him out of his financial situation that he was getting into from the gambling. I was helping him out by subbing in, digging him out of a hole. I was enabling him… People would say to me, “You need to cut him off financially. Don’t let him have access to the account.” That’s all very good and well, but when the option of that is just then put a noose around his neck, you can’t withdraw the financial support because he would have killed himself. He never said it. It was a never a guilt thing of him saying, “If you don’t give me the money, mum, I’ll kill myself.” It was more him being very honest in saying, “I can’t ever see this stopping, mum, unless I’m no longer here. I don’t know how to stop this.”

I think as a dad you go into rescue mode, don’t you? And you try and solve it and you try to solve it logically by paying him off and bailing him out, different things that went on. And then you get angry, and then you get frustrated because you couldn’t solve the problem. When really, it wasn’t my problem to solve. Going to GamAnon and realising that I had no control over my son’s gambling was probably the start point of our recovery.

One day he came round and said Dad, I don’t know what to do basically. You know, I’ve got this debt and I’m not sure how to manage it. And I’ve always tried to encourage the boys to share their concerns or worries with me. He and I sat down, and he accumulated about this time, round about £50,000 of debt. So, a fair amount, but it wasn’t all at that point down to gambling. I think it was the fact that he had also, develop an alcohol dependency, so he is actually now also recovering from being an alcoholic. He’s now four and a half years into his recovery, the same as gambling. He goes to both AA and GA. So, what was clear was he was spending too much money. He would spend a lot of time out with his wife going out for meals. He was living above his means, I think very simply.

And I think it got to a point where he then had seen an advert on TV that was really saying, you know, it could be fun to gamble, and I think he was low. The alcohol wasn’t necessarily dealing with his problems, and he started to gamble, and I think he lost at that time maybe about £15,000 to £20,000 pretty quickly, which is why suddenly this sum had become so large and whereas he might have been able to cope before, he just couldn’t. So yes, so we basically just sat down and developed a repayment plan. I didn’t really understand gambling and I said Well, don’t do it again. You know, it might take you five years or so to get out of this. I’ll give you the support as a parent, which I now know, anybody who is a gambler you shouldn’t do. But most parents do. Although I now say to people who don’t know it just helps to provide them with good credit. But basically, over five years, we got back to a point where he was clear of all debt. But then he had some work done on their house because they’d not had the house done. They got all the money out to get the work done, the building work was all being done and then he lost all the money taken out for the building work plus more in four days.

John #2

Some parents find that their children initially hide their money problems, as they feel ashamed, or they want to shield their family from the truth. Parents are delayed from realising how serious the issue is.

When he turned 18, what happened was he then started getting loans out, payday loans. He maxed out his Barclaycard. That account got defaulted. But because my wife and I were out working, we had no idea what post was coming to the home. When we were here when the post came, he would always run down and get it and then bring two letters down so we didn’t know there were three or four letters there. Obviously, he was very, very good and resourceful at hiding it and covering it.

Siblings could also end up bailing the person out after they had accrued debts from loans or high-cost credit. In addition to these debts, affected family members often incur extra costs, such as expenses for household items.

At the end of the day, [my brother] was just permanently spending, and overspending on an overdraft. It never went. Technically it was their money that he was spending. You do look. I remember looking and thinking, wow.

That got to a point whereby this time, I’d given him tens of thousands of pounds. My mum and dad, we’re talking huge, huge amounts of money. He would do something and pay it back for a little while, then it became payday loans- and all of this is because of the gambling. Then he had payday loans, and you know how payday loans work. They were even worse than the gambling.

Family members frequently feel a sense of obligation or pressure to assist with money issues caused by the person’s gambling difficulties. Like parents, they can fear that without their financial assistance, their relative might face severe consequences such losing their home.

Every time I felt I got myself back on track, then it felt like he needed money again. When you’ve got family who are still at school. I know I was feeding a habit, but you look and you just think, “Well, I don’t want them to not have a home. I don’t want them to not have…” It’s really hard. It’s easy to think. I won’t, and every time I would say, “This is the last time,” but when it’s the reality of it is they’ll lose the home, they’ll lose this… We would pay his payday loans.

Continually providing financial assistance could damage relationships.

Everything was in trouble, all his bills. I re-mortgaged my house to help him. That was the level of seriousness that we’re talking about. It got to a point where we had showdowns with him. You have those arguments about, “You must be gambling.” “I promise, I’m not.” “You must be gambling.” “I promise, I’m not.” It spoiled our relationship because it’s a real power imbalance in your relationship, and it’s just a horrible way to live.

Assisting a family member with gambling debt could damage an affected other’s financial position and lead to tensions within the broader family network. For instance, one person who helped their sibling with financial issues from gambling subsequently faced challenges in their own relationship with their partner.

Before I spoke to my parents about it, it got to a point where that just did come up, as you can imagine, because it got to a point where I was like, “I can’t keep doing this.” Actually, when I spoke to them, they’d got to that point, too, but before that, it caused a lot of difficulties with my partner, as you can imagine, because although it’s my money, it’s difficult, isn’t it?

Partners

The financial impact of gambling on partners ranged from missing a few bills, to paying off debt or a drastic alteration of their financial situation. Additionally, partners feel a loss of control and security and escalating tensions in their relationship.

He unexpectedly broke down and admitted he couldn’t financially commit to getting our own home. He was in a mess. He had numerous credit card debts. It was the sensible thing to help him and us to use my home from the house sale. Thankfully, I ensured my money indirectly was my part share in his house.

We were quite lucky in a sense. I say lucky, nobody’s lucky in this situation, but the debt wasn’t huge. We didn’t have a mortgage. It hadn’t affected our house. We missed a couple of bills, but thankfully I had my student finance, so I was able to cover them.

When we got married, we got married a year and a half ago, I paid for everything. I paid for what I wore, I paid for what he wore. There was 15 of us that went into a very expensive restaurant, I paid for all that. I thought he didn’t have any money. I had no idea he was gambling. I honestly thought he was having an affair.

But it got to a point that, I think he had got himself in such a mess, he needed me to get him out of the mess he’d got into. It all come out in the open with the big arguments and the tears and the everything that it causes, and I helped him get five credit cards and put various different totals of debt onto each credit card… That was exhausting in itself.

Dealing with creditors caused a lot of stress. This was made worse by the constant pressure and harassment from these creditors.

I had bailiffs at the door, I used to sit on the steps and just shout at the bailiffs to go away. All I kept hearing was people saying don’t open the door to them. That’s all I kept hearing them saying. It was an awful, awful time. I think I just got to the point in the end, where it was like I couldn’t cope with the stress.

The situation was often worse when people gamble with money from joint accounts, depleting savings and making it difficult to pay for household essentials. Some lose their homes.

He bought a– well, financed in September of, I think 2021 or 2020, he went and financed a brand new £55,000 Mercedes on the fact that he told me he’d won £19,000 and that’s what he was going to use as the deposit so that brings down the amount of repayment to get it paid off in something like– I can’t remember, say it was five years at £1000 a month that he could do with his work and the other–well, anyway. I just didn’t accept the conversation. I told him, “Is the car in your name or–?” He said, no, it’s all in my name, which I was pleased with because I didn’t want it associated to the house. I couldn’t believe he’d taken on such a big financial burden at a time where business had started to slow because we were just coming into COVID, like our first winter COVID.

Anyway, he got the car and I think he used it for a month and then we got locked down. So he had a £51,000– oh, apart from the fact he didn’t use the £19,000 for the deposit for it, he gambled that and once he’d gambled that, he removed £9,000 out of our joint account that was all saved up for rainy day things and obviously our direct debits, and used that to put the deposit down on the car and left £1000 in the bank, which wasn’t even enough to cover the direct debits of that month. So I was just frantically, crazily, wholly thrown back into a spiral of– I can’t even describe it.

It’s like whole mental health hell because your whole– It affects every single fibre for every single emotion that they can touch in you. Because you try so hard to love them and so hard to help them and want them better so much because you know they are better people than the gambling mental health-issued person that they’ve shown you.

Julie

Partners often find themselves reducing their own or household expenses for necessities and leisure activities to cope with the financial strain caused by gambling.

Without him knowing, we got the ticket home… He had this lovely evening for his 40th birthday. When he opened the ticket, oh my God, it was the probably the most emotional evening ever… On my 40th birthday, because he’d done a massive amount of gambling and we were in a really bad place and it was horrible so I had no money and had a really, really bad 40th birthday.

This financial strain intensified relationship and emotional difficulties, leading to increased tension and arguments within their relationships.

We’d had a lockdown of listening to him shouting at me for various issues– he’d been gambling all the way through the lockdown. There were another few family arguments over money and what was going to happen.

The person gambling and partners often took on additional work to cope with financial difficulties. This reduces the time they can spend with their family, further impacting their personal and family life.

I have a son to look after as well at night. Even when he’s like now the minute where he’s not gambling, he’s having to work all the hours to try and recoup money to pay off his debt so he’s still not around. Even now I obviously went back to work after that when things were a bit better, he was not gambling anymore, so our financial situation was a little bit better.

Even now, it’s still having an impact because he’s working overtime constantly. Like he’s working Saturday and Sunday this week as well as the days in the week that he works, but he doesn’t see that as an issue. He sees it as, “Well, it means I can pay my debts off.” But he’s not around and all you ever want when you’re married to someone is to have a partnership. Someone to be there, that’s all we need, that’s what my son needs. It’s not all about buying him lots of presents, he doesn’t need lots of presents. He just wants to days out, he wants to go to the park, he wants to play in the garden.

He’s happy with sticks and stones, like running around and splashing in puddles but he doesn’t see it like that. He just sees it as well, I’m earning all this money now and it’s like well we don’t even see it. We don’t benefit from it. We don’t have nice holidays and fancy cars or anything, it is literally he is paying it to pay these debts off. He’s burning himself into the ground because he’s working all hours. I am getting worn out because it’s just me going to work, coming home, being a mum and that’s it. Go to bed, get up, start again. There’s no time for me. There’s no time for us.

My mum takes our son out every other weekend and that eventually started last year when he’d had his last relapse. That was so we could spend time together to talk but we don’t even have that now, because he’s working. It’s difficult.

Clare

Many say managing family finances due to a partner’s gambling can change the dynamics of the relationship, as they are forced to take on a monitoring or parental role. This shift could led to increased tensions and strain within the relationship.

Then I started getting access to his bank account, which he gave me from the sessions that he had at Gamblers Anonymous. They gave him suggestions of how we can help. Then I became the person that looked after all the finances, which was a bit of extra pressure on me. He’d give me access to his bank account so I could see if he was doing anything he shouldn’t. I’d have his bank cards, so he couldn’t physically draw money out, but all that would happen is he’d find other ways to gamble. Or we’d have the arguments that was, “I want my card.” I’d say, “You can’t have your card. What do you need it for?” “Well, I need to get this.” It was always things like, “Oh, I need to get me lunch.” I’m like, “You don’t need to, you pack yourself lunch in the morning. You don’t need it.”

Then it turned into an argument. He’d be like, “Well, it’s my card. I want it back.” It was always that kind of parent-child situation. As soon as I said something, I said no to something, he’d just have a paddy and be like, “That’s my card. It’s my money.” Or he’d changed the password to his bank account, so I couldn’t physically get into it. In his head, he was hiding the fact that I wouldn’t be able to see that he’d been gambling, but actually, by changing his password, either way I would’ve known because why else does he not want me to access it?

Then he’d start giving reasons like, it was for my birthday one year. He was like, “Oh, I’ve just overspent on presents for you. Can you just put £50 in my account?” I was like, “Well, don’t want you to go mad on my birthday presents,” but actually, he’d been gambling. I logged into his account because I thought that’s a bit weird. I went into his account, and he’d been gambling. Again, he’d deny it all and say it was a mistake blah, blah, blah. Then eventually, he’d admit to it. It just went on for years.

Clare

Some described their situation as ‘financial abuse’, as they were frequently guilted or felt coerced into lending money to the person who gambles.

It’s like financial abuse in a sense, but at the same time, they’re not in control of it. They’re not doing out of badness or – do you know what I mean?

Children

A child recounted being forced into giving money to a parent who gambled. The parent would promise to repay the money, and the child felt unable to refuse the demand. This situation reflects a particularly distressing aspect of gambling addiction, where family dynamics are strained, and children are placed in vulnerable positions. They may feel compelled to give money to the gambling parent out of fear or manipulation.

As I started year 7, I started to get £5 a day. Sorry, I meant five pounds a week, £5 a day would be ludicrous. £5 a week and that meant all my sort of spending money if I wanted to buy food or anything extra at school or whatever or to save it. And yeah, as a kid, I was very cash conscious. I was very conscientious of the fact that we didn’t have a lot of money. And I used to save all of it. I didn’t spend any money on food or anything.

So, I used to accumulate a couple of hundred pounds across a year and I constantly had quite a large amount of money, more than £50. I would always have that like a large amount, not really knowing what I’d do with it and coming to reflect on it I’m not sure why, why I would bother having £50 at that age but essentially it would just get borrowed. It would just get taken off me and my dad would say can I borrow some money off of you and I would say, you know, are you just going to lose it though? And he would sort of say no, I’m not, I’ll give back to you, I promise, you know. I don’t really have a choice because if I do carry on resisting then he’s just going to get angry, he’s going to get abusive. And so, there’s really no way of me saying no.

And actually, that reminds me of the fact that there were times that my well, my mum would often try to hide money in the house and my dad would often ransack the house. It was almost like it was being burgled. He would go through all of my mum’s things to find money, and he would get it eventually. And if it if my mum had taken it to work, for example, if he couldn’t find it then he would go to her workplace in front of all her work colleagues and all the work colleagues were all of the same sort of ethnic cultural background because again it was sort of manual work in a factory, and a sweet factory. So, he’d go in front of them and say, you know, I need you to get the money, and my mum would tell me about that after. Yeah, and she would cry about it.

Kishan

Legacy

The financial position of affected others and families often suffered long term. But there could also be other kinds of legacies in relationship dynamics and how money is managed in the family.

A parent or spouse can end up having to take control of the finances. The family member who takes on the responsibility can feel overwhelmed by the added burden. They may experience stress due to the need for constant vigilance over their loved one’s spending habits, and this monitoring can lead to tension. The dynamics of the relationship might shift, which can alter the nature of their interactions and affect the emotional connection between them.

I do the budget every month, those kinds of things. And on the most part, it’s fine. It works perfectly well. There are times when sometimes I do feel frustrated about it, and it is something that I would like to sort of see in the future some more support available for the financial side of things because it is a big responsibility to take on. I have to make sure that everybody’s fed, and everybody’s got money where they need it to be, going to pay all school dinners and do all the shopping for budget.

Not just that, I think it can sometimes be a source of tension for us too, because he doesn’t know what’s going on in our finances, so he doesn’t know whether we’ve got spare cash that month or if we can afford to do X, Y and Z, and then he’ll feel frustrated if I then say we’re skint this month. He’s like why you didn’t tell me, and I don’t want to tell him because I’m worried that he’s then going to want to fix that. He’s always wanted to fix his finances.

So, because he’s never been well off, like, you know, he’s always wanted to make his life better, and he always thought that money was the answer to that. And then gambling then became the answer to getting more money, or so he thought. So, it can be a source of tension, but also, we know that it’s necessary and like I say sometimes it is a bit stressful, but it’s a sacrifice that I’m willing to make because it helps him.

Charlotte

Every time he made a purchase, I got a notification straight to my phone. The idea was then he couldn’t be withdrawing cash and he couldn’t be gambling on websites because I would know. That then became a very toxic thing, as you can imagine, where it’s not an intimate relationship. It becomes a managerial where I’m monitoring him very, very closely. Then the arguments that will come from that. I think that real damage to your ability to have a healthy, trusting relationship.

The financial problems can remain for affected others should the person die. When a person passes away, the responsibility of sorting out the finances falls on the family.

We didn’t have a boiler because we couldn’t afford it… So there was always a sort of financial pressure, and obviously there’s been all this weight of debt on my mum and on me as well. I think from a young age, there’s also this idea that me and my brother being able to understand English and yeah, we’ve sort of been managing the household in different ways from a young of age, something that my dad actually encouraged. But also, when he passed away, it sort of did just fall to us to do everything regarding bills and whatever.

After he committed suicide, about seven months later I got solicitor’s letter from one of his personal friends who he’d borrowed £20,000 from, no signed paperwork, no formal agreement, no nothing but he wants it off me, this man. He wants his £20,000 back from me for his gambling debt…So the stress for one letter because then I just kept thinking, my God, who else–? They’re all going to come now. They’re all going to come for the house. Because all I do was doing was working four jobs to try and keep the mortgage going, to keep the house for the kids. Then to have complete strangers wanting £20,000 pounds because of him? He’s been dead nearly a year.

I think I finally sorted all the practical things of those debts and things, but I have to say in the back of my mind, until you get to that seven years post-death, nothing can come, I still dread that something will come. Even though you might not be able to do anything financially, if a debt suddenly arises, we had a letter, mum had a letter a few months ago. I dealt with it, but two and a half years later, you just think, oh, it just resurfaces all of those feelings.

Being affected by someone’s gambling difficulties can change how affected others view and manage money. They often become more careful and controlling with their finances, aiming to avoid financial problems in the future.

The emotional impact is huge. I feel like I am very much changed in I’m really tight with money. I never was that way before. That probably is something I actually need to work on where now I’m quite ungenerous. I do just feel like that’s total trauma around money.

I now realize actually how much of an impact it had on my mum. She has a lot of trust issues and money is always a sore topic or a touchy subject with her because she doesn’t have a lot. Maybe sometimes she hasn’t managed it as well, but I also think finance and money is like a real drive for her, like she needs to have it. I feel like that also probably comes from when my dad was gambling. She was at home looking after me and my sister and then she’d not know each week whether they’d have money that weekend or whether things would get paid. She wasn’t in control of it.

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