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Clare

Clare became aware that her partner experienced difficulties with his gambling two years after they got married. She describes being in a relationship with somebody with gambling difficulties as a rollercoaster that you can’t get off – one minute there is a lot of love in their relationship, and the next minute her partner is down and withdrawn. Her partner’s gambling has had a big impact on her and her family, and she often feels stressed and anxious. She has taken on the responsibility of managing the family finances.

Clare has received counselling to help support her as an affected other. She has also received marriage counselling which she says was good because it allowed her to share her experiences with her partner. Clare would like to see better awareness and understanding of gambling addiction from GPs, as well as better signposting to gambling specific support services.

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Then I started getting access to his bank account, which he gave me from the sessions that he had at Gamblers Anonymous. They gave him suggestions of how we can help. Then I became the person that looked after all the finances, which was a bit of extra pressure on me. He’d give me access to his bank account so I could see if he was doing anything he shouldn’t. I’d have his bank cards, so he couldn’t physically draw money out, but all that would happen is he’d find other ways to gamble. Or we’d have the arguments that was, “I want my card.” I’d say, “You can’t have your card. What do you need it for?” “Well, I need to get this.” It was always things like, “Oh, I need to get me lunch.” I’m like, “You don’t need to, you pack yourself lunch in the morning. You don’t need it.”

Then it turned into an argument. He’d be like, “Well, it’s my card. I want it back.” It was always that kind of parent-child situation. As soon as I said something, I said no to something, he’d just have a paddy and be like, “That’s my card. It’s my money.” Or he’d changed the password to his bank account, so I couldn’t physically get into it. In his head, he was hiding the fact that I wouldn’t be able to see that he’d been gambling, but actually, by changing his password, either way I would’ve known because why else does he not want me to access it?

Then he’d start giving reasons like, it was for my birthday one year. He was like, “Oh, I’ve just overspent on presents for you. Can you just put £50 in my account?” I was like, “Well, don’t want you to go mad on my birthday presents,” but actually, he’d been gambling. I logged into his account because I thought that’s a bit weird. I went into his account, and he’d been gambling. Again, he’d deny it all and say it was a mistake blah, blah, blah. Then eventually, he’d admit to it. It just went on for years.

Clare
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I have opened up to people that I thought were people that I could trust and that would listen to me. I had some people at work that I thought I had a good relationship with, and then my mum is never really, she has to try to understand. People at work, there’s one in particular, I used to go everywhere, I used to do Slimming World with her, we would go on nights out, we would catch up with work, I was there for when she was struggling and vice versa. When I told her about [partner’s] problem, her response was you should leave him, and she said it a few times. I went from thinking I could talk to her and open up to not wanting to talk to her, because if I tell her, then it’s like, I’m being stupid about why are you not leaving him?

The same with another work colleague, she was the same. She would say the same thing. You just want to leave him. I’m a single mum, I’m fine on my own, I was in an unhappy marriage. Her reasons were different, I was in an unhappy marriage and I left, but it isn’t that easy. What they don’t understand is it made me feel like I was stupid and people thinking, “Oh, she’s a doormat,” but there’s more to it than that. I know the person that [partner] was and that he is with this addiction out of the way.

I don’t want to just leave him because his family’s pretty much abandoned him. I don’t want to just be like, it’s easy for me to walk away and I’ve got a son with him as well now. I don’t want us to have a bad relationship, whether it worked out or not, I still want to support him. If we were to split up tomorrow, I would still want to have a good relationship with him and be someone that he can talk to because I know he has not really got that with his family and I want his son to grow up the same as well, feeling supported after this.
It was difficult then to speak to them. One of them has actually ended up having to deal with an addiction in her family since, but it was a drug addiction. She is apologetic now, because she’s like you can’t just leave them, they’re family, and it’s like, exactly. The other one I still talk to, but I don’t talk about this.

Even with my mum, like my mum is supportive, she’ll do whatever I want, but she does get frustrated, and sometimes I’ll just say something, she’ll just be very blunt and I’m like, “I don’t need to hear what you think I should do, I just want you to be there to support me, and let me talk.” I’m not very good at talking when I’m struggling anyway with my mental health, I just shut down. It’s a big thing for me to open up and then to feel like I’m going to be judged, I just won’t and I’ll just withdraw.

Clare
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It’s not just the trust side of it. It’s all that responsibility you have with the funds and trying to make sure money’s okay and that he’s not gambling, and when he does gamble, it was always left to me to pick up the pieces because he’d be ignorant to how much he actually owed. I’d be like, “Well, how much do you owe this time to see if it was something that we could afford?” He’d take loans out, he’d reach repayment, but then he wouldn’t think about the last loan that he took out. He’d take quite a lot of payday loans out in short succession. Then we’d sit there and we’d work it out and it’d be ridiculous amounts that he can’t afford this. Then he wouldn’t want to go to a debt management company because that stopped him getting a mortgage in the first place. Then there’d be that battle with him that you can’t afford to pay it back. We can’t afford to pay with the payments that you’re making and trying to get him to understand the effect it has on me.

Then I’ve got my mum offering, “Oh, we’ll help you out.” It’s like, my mum’s not the best money-wise either. She’s not made of money and there’s that not wanting to talk to them because I feel embarrassed, but then, not wanting to also cause an issue between them and [partner], because I want [partner] to have support, whether it’s my family or his, but he’s too proud and he’ll avoid them once he’s had a session. Then my mum will be annoyed, and my mum’s one of these that she sometimes says things that she shouldn’t say. She’ll vent or she’ll put a status on Facebook or something, that’ll be aimed at him or whatever. It’d be very difficult because it doesn’t just affect his relationship with them, it affects mine as well. I’m stuck in the middle of that. I want to talk to my mum, but I don’t want her to say something she shouldn’t say to cause issues with [partner], but then I don’t want [partner] to avoid them, because I don’t want him to not be able to go to events, especially as we’ve got our son now.

I want [son] to be happy and comfortable and not feel like there’s an atmosphere just because we’re going round for a brew or whatever. It has a big effect, and with me and his family, I don’t have anything to do with them because I resent them for not being there and causing the issues we have with him over the years, that has strained his relationship with his mum, which was the only person he ever really spoke to. He’s got all these brothers and a sister and not one of them has made the effort with him. Then they’ve painted me as a bad person over the years, and that means I have next to no relationship with them, and he doesn’t really now.

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It’s quite devastating when it happens. Obviously, I’ll never fully trust him, which is hard and I’m always worrying about money, but I get to the point where I get a bit complacent and start to feel comfortable and start to feel like our relationship is back on track. If I’m not happy with him, I distance myself but when I am we do stuff together, we spend time together, we’re happy but then when he relapses, it’s like a punch in the stomach. It’s a bit like you knew it could always happen but at the same time he’s doing it again and I’ve not had a clue. He has not told me before it’s got to that because one of the things that you talk about in GA in the early stages was about communication and talking about it enough so that rather than just argue when it happens, it’s an open conversation. We can try and prevent it if it’s going to happen, or it’s not going to be as bad when it happens, because you’re open about it. Then it’s that whole, he makes excuses for it, and then my reaction is, “I can’t deal with this anymore, I’m going,” which doesn’t help the situation, but I don’t know what to do. It doesn’t matter how many times it happens, it never gets any easier. You never think, “Oh, I’m stronger now, I can deal with it.” You can’t because you’ve got so much to think about. You think, “Well, what about our son? Should I stay with him? Should I not stay with him? Do I leave him to deal with it on his own?” But then there’s the worry that he’s not going to deal with it. He’ll bury his head in the sand. His idea of getting himself out of debt is to get loans to pay the debts off but as a compulsive gambler, if he does that, he ends up just plodding along thinking he can double his money. It’s like, do I support him and help him because if I help him financially, which I’m not in the best position where I’ve got a little bit of savings that are protected. Do I help him financially? I shouldn’t because he doesn’t learn and he thinks he’s got that safety net. Do I leave him to it and tell him he has to deal with it himself, which really is what I should do but then his way of dealing with it is emotional blackmail for me, making me feel bad for not supporting him. Some of the things that he comes out with even saying that he was suicidal the last time. It was just him saying it for a reaction for me to do something for him or it’s the risk that is going to get into good debt, because it does still affect us both, but he doesn’t realize that. It’s like that. What do I do? Like feeling lost? It’s like do I talk to my mum and see if my mum can give me some guidance, but then there’s we can’t talk to my mum because my mum is going to talk and she’s going to want to say something to [partner] and I don’t want her to say something to [partner] that will make him withdraw and that situation is going to be 10 times worse. He’s feeling lost when he does it because it’s not knowing how to deal with it because if I help him he is going to think it’s all right and he can do it again. If I don’t help him, it’s going to make the situation worse.

Clare
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He tried a couple of things like going to the doctors, doctors couldn’t help him because they didn’t really understand it. They sent him away and said we will look into it, see what support there is. There wasn’t really anything. He tried various different things, but it never really worked. Then this just carried on as a cycle over the years. I feel like everything’s all right, and then it’d all start again, and then eventually we found Gamblers Anonymous. He would always make excuses why he couldn’t go. Eventually, he did and that was probably the best thing for him, but for me, I was still suffering. It was the trust, it was the money issue because we was in a part of our life where we wanted to get a house, we wanted to have a family. We were already married. It didn’t make sense how we’d gone from the relationship we had to what we’ve got now. How close we were to how much of a different person it felt like he was because when he was gambling, you didn’t really notice it at the time, but you look back at it and you think his behaviour did change. He’d be snappy, he’d be withdrawn. He’d be staying up late at night. One of the things that made me laugh is when I found out that I could go for support at Gamblers Anonymous and I was a bit like, why do I need to go? I’ve not got the problem, but I did need to go because I needed help. Eventually, I did go and I met people that was going through similar situations, they were either partners, brothers, sisters, mothers, whatever, children of gamblers. It was something someone said that always resonates with me, she said, “For years when I didn’t realize, but we never got any post.” That was the same for me because this was before COVID, so I went to the office to work. He worked as a landscaper in the local area, and I never even twigged that, there was never any post for him, but actually, there was, he was intercepting it. He’d be going home at lunchtime or he’d see the postman and he’d hide it and that’s how I found things because I said it was just simple things like opening a door and there’d be a letter in there like, “Oh, what’s that all about?” Or I found something that didn’t make sense and I would do a little bit of digging, “Oh my God, he’s been gambling.” Then I’d challenge him about it.

Clare
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I think the marriage counselling was really good, because it was us together and it was being able to actually have him listen to my side, but also me listen to his side because you get very much, what about me? What about me? I’m like that, and then he’s like that. We’re all like, well, you don’t support me, I don’t support you. Having that mediation, somebody in between us giving us the chance to speak and listen meant that we opened up more. We understood a little bit about why we are the way we are, why we’re feeling the way we’re feeling, giving us a chance to talk and listen, not just talk at each other or argue.

I’d say the Beacon counselling I had a few months back because that was aimed at affected others and the actual compulsive gambler. When you go for counselling, they don’t necessarily look at that. If [partner] went for counselling, they’d talk about his past and stuff. If I went for counselling, they’d talk about stuff, but they wouldn’t address the actual gambling. It’s always we need to talk about why you’re angry and this, that, and the other. It was never, why do you gamble or what leads to that? This was tailored to that reason, so I had lots of practical things for my counselling. For example, when [partner] gambles, I worry about money. It was things like practical steps to make a list now while things are in an okay position of support that you can get. For example, I was in the union, go to the union, there was sittings in the past having these steps, when it happens, I’m not being reactive. I’ve got things in place already, like the security steps, and also it’s having somebody listen to me and how it’s affecting me and not going, but it’s not their fault because they’ve got this illness. It’s not right what they’re doing and you need to challenge that. I struggled with counselling, when they just talk about things, whereas these were practical steps that I could put in place to know that I’m okay and also knowing that I can access it again if I need to.

It was just having somebody that had the experience in that area, because a lot of counsellors don’t. When you talk about gambling, they don’t really touch on that. They’ll touch on other addictions, but gambling is not really something that everybody’s aware of how bad it can affect somebody and the people that they love.

Clare
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Banks as well, banks need to be a bit more responsible. [Partner’s] okay with his. He’s able to put a block on so that he can’t gamble, but it’s also recognizing the patterns that they have when they gamble, because there is always a pattern. [Partner] isn’t able to go in to a gambling website and make payments through his bank account, but he can do it through PayPal. It’s recognizing patterns because compulsive gamblers always have patterns. They will have like 20 transactions or £10 to PayPal, £10, £10, £10. Nobody should be having that sort of thing to release, then questioning that and giving more options. There’s some banks that have more options like he has got a gambling block on his account. But again, like I say, he can go to PayPal. It’s looking at them, and then there’s somewhere you can do cash withdrawals. You have to go in to ask for cash and it’s then having a bit more responsibility as well. It is a difficult one really.

The government should be banning– There is a lot of things in place, but there’s a lot flaws to the things that are in place and like I said with the ban, you can get around it a different way, but they don’t then pick up the fact that there’s £10 coming of PayPal. You’ve got the Gamblock that you can put on computers, but if you do a restart, not a restart, but a refresh on your computer, it takes it off. I’d like people to take more responsibilities from how they’re causing this person harm as well. Obviously, the compulsive gambler doesn’t necessarily know there’s a problem, but they have to choose to be able to see that there is one. If you could see that somebody gambling too much, don’t leave it for them to then tell you when enough is enough. Because they don’t know when enough is enough. It’s them recognizing there’s an issue and challenging them on that. If they want to self-exclude, don’t be giving them an option of how long or whatever, self-exclude them indefinitely. They shouldn’t after so many years, then be invited back to use that site again. They only have limits for a year or two years, but if somebody is telling you they have a problem, they need as much help as they can get.

Even mobile phone companies, one of the things that [partner] has done recently was used the mobile phone bill to pay for gambling and then recognizing there’s an issue as well. I think the limit was like £250. He was getting a phone bill for £250 and they were allowing it to happen.

Clare
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It’s quite devastating when it happens. Obviously, I’ll never fully trust him, which is hard and I’m always worrying about money, but I get to the point where I get a bit complacent. I start to feel comfortable and start to feel like our relationship is back on track. If I’m not happy with him, I distance myself but when I am we do stuff together, we spend time together, we’re happy but then when he relapses, it’s like a punch in the stomach. It’s a bit like you knew it could always happen but at the same time he’s doing it again and I’ve not had a clue. It doesn’t matter how many times it happens, it never gets any easier.

Gambling Experiences

It is like a roller coaster because you get with a person because there’s a lot you love about them and that’s still there but this addiction when it takes over, it takes that person away from you. One minute they’re up and they’re happy and they’re doing everything that they would normally do and then the next they are down and withdrawn. They don’t want to talk to you, they get angry at the smallest little things, like they do get a temper and then they just turn into a complete stranger. There’s no way of it ending because you have a need to think you’re strong enough to carry on or do you just get off the ride and that’s it. It’s all or nothing. You’ve got to find strength in you somewhere to deal with it.

Gambling Experiences

When he is not gambling, he’s a good guy. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy when he is gambling, but he’s very selfish when he is gambling. It’s about his needs, what he wants if he’s struggling.

Gambling Experiences

His mood had changed a little bit, and he was quite withdrawn or quite down in the dumps and I couldn’t work out what it was. I kept asking him and he was like, nothing, nothing, it’s all right, it’s all right. Then the night he was due to go on his work do, a day just before he went, he told me that he’d been gambling and he’d gambled a couple of hundred pounds. At the time, obviously, it was a shock. It was a lot of money, but we had no commitments and I didn’t realise this was going to be an issue going forward.

Gambling Experiences

I asked him about it. He was quite ashamed but I didn’t know enough about it and I don’t think he realised that it was a problem at the time…I just thought it was one of them things. I was a bit shocked, a bit taken back, but I didn’t know enough about it.

Gambling Experiences

He’s always had it around him from being a kid. His mum used to go bingo, his sister went bingo, his brother-in-law, who was part of his life from a young age used to go and play on the slots.

Gambling Experiences

He started working with his brother-in-law and one of his best mates and it’s something that they did. When we did have rainy days, and they were meant to be doing landscaping, they just sat in the van all day and they’d just be on their smartphones gambling all day…It was a bit of everyone else was doing it, I’ll give it a go, and then boom, I’ve got some money and then that was it. It just spiralled from there.

Gambling Experiences

Not having stuff to do and just sitting around bored. He’s not smoking anymore so the times that he’d go outside for a cigarette, he [00:43:00] wasn’t doing that anymore. If it was raining, they all sat in the van all day, there was nothing else to do, so boredom really and not having something to occupy him. He’s not someone that can sit still. If he’s not got something to do, then he’ll find something and his thing was gambling.

Gambling Experiences

It’s a difficult one because how long can you put up with it, but at the same time, because I’ve known him for years before, I know he is not a bad person. Then I get withdrawn about being able to talk to people because I think they’re judging me because like some comments that people make of is, “Just leave him. I don’t know why you’re still with him.” It’s like but there’s a lot more to it. He’s got this addiction.

Gambling Experiences

It was when I started to find things. One of the very rare times that he actually told me something was wrong. It was when I started to find letters from loan companies, not understanding what that was. I questioned him about it, and he lied to me and say, even with like the letters in front of me showing him saying, what’s this loan, what’s it, and he was like, “Oh, nothing, nothing.” It’s like, but there’s a letter here. He would just get defensive that it was, “Why are you looking at my stuff? Why are you snooping?”… Even when I did challenge him with the evidence in front of me, he would turn it around, so I’d be the bad person, because I was snooping, or I was the issue. It took a while for him to admit to what was actually going on.

Gambling Experiences

Over the years, if there’s things going on with his friends, he would open up and talk to me about it and vice versa, but he was lying to me now. He was hiding things from me, and then he was trying to turn it around to blame me for it. It’d be my fault that he’s gambled or I shouldn’t be snooping or whatever.

Gambling Experiences

It’s been an on-and-off thing over the last couple of years that we’ve been struggling with it. We’ll go through phases where he’s free of it, he’s doing everything he can to stop himself going back into it and then he’ll have a relapse. It’s been a bit of a vicious cycle over the years. Then when it’s come to this latest bout, it’s been a bit more of a struggle to just forgive it and move on like I have over the years, because there’s a lot more that we’ve got now than we did in the beginning. We’ve got the commitment of a mortgage and we’ve got a nearly three-year-old son together.

Gambling Experiences

I think it was like an American site he went on. I only found out about this after the fact. I think you just put your phone number in and they’ll charge it to your phone bill. Rather than you actually having to have your bank account, that’s another way you can do it because obviously, if he doesn’t have access to his card details or his bank, that’s another way around it because he has a contract phone. You just give the phone number and it charges it to your bill.

Gambling Companies

He was quite ashamed but I didn’t know enough about it and I don’t think he realized that it was a problem at the time. We thought he just got carried away… I just thought it was one of them things. I was a bit shocked, a bit taken back, but I didn’t know enough about it, because obviously you hear about alcoholics and drug addicts, and there’s a lot around them. You recognize if there’s a problem, because you can physically see them doing something.

Stigma

When he first told his sister, his sister was like, “Well, everybody, gambles,” that was her response. His mum was similar. She didn’t get that it was– she still really doesn’t now. She would enable it, his mum, because if he couldn’t get money from me, it would’ve been his mum and his mum would send him some money, but not question why he needed it or anything.

Stigma

There was different feelings from my side. It was like, “Well, if I let him do this, is it my fault, because I haven’t picked it up?” If I drove him to it, because sometimes he’d say it was me, if something was happening in our relationship at the time.

Stigma

He wouldn’t want me to talk to people because he’d feel a bit ashamed about it. That’s when I started to realize there was a problem, because of all the people that he could talk to, I was always the friend that he would come to before we got together and I would go to him and we’d tell each other everything.

Stigma

He hasn’t got the support from his family, but I have, but then he doesn’t want me to talk to my family because he’s worried about how he’s being judged.

Stigma

Mum will be annoyed, and my mum’s one of these that she sometimes says things that she shouldn’t say. She’ll vent or she’ll put a status on Facebook or something, that’ll be aimed at him or whatever. It’d be very difficult because it doesn’t just affect his relationship with them, it affects mine as well. I’m stuck in the middle of that. I want to talk to my mum, but I don’t want her to say something she shouldn’t say to cause issues with [partner], but then I don’t want [partner] to avoid them, because I don’t want him to not be able to go to events, especially we’ve got our son now.

Stigma

I get withdrawn about being able to talk to people because I think they’re judging me because like some comments that people make of is, “Just leave him. I don’t know why you’re still with him.” It’s like but there’s a lot more to it. He’s got this addiction. If it was an alcoholic or someone who’s dependent on drugs, you would try and help them because you want that person back that you know is there. When he is not gambling, he’s a good guy.

Stigma

It has a big effect, and with me and his family, I don’t have anything to do with them because I resent them for not being there and causing the issues we have with him over the years…Then they’ve painted me as a bad person over the years, and that means I have next to no relationship with them.

Stigma Harm

I don’t do a lot of things, I’m not as outgoing as I used to be. I’m stressed all the time. I’m worrying about money constantly. When we have it, I’m worried that he is going to gamble it. When we don’t have it, I am worried about where it’s going to come from.

Harm

My mum’s one of these that she sometimes says things that she shouldn’t say. She’ll vent or she’ll put a status on Facebook or something, that’ll be aimed at him or whatever. It’d be very difficult because it doesn’t just affect his relationship with them, it affects mine as well. I’m stuck in the middle of that. I want to talk to my mum, but I don’t want her to say something she shouldn’t say] to cause issues with [partner], but then I don’t want [partner] to avoid them, because I don’t want him to not be able to go to events, especially we’ve got our son now. I want [son] to be happy and comfortable and not feel like there’s an atmosphere just because we’re going round for a brew or whatever.

Harm

It has a big effect, and with me and his family, I don’t have anything to do with them because I resent them for not being there and causing the issues we have with him over the years, that has strained his relationship with his mum, which was the only person he ever really spoke to. He’s got all these brothers and a sister and not one of them has made the effort with him. Then they’ve painted me as a bad person over the years, and that means I have next to no relationship with them, and he doesn’t really know. We just speak to his mum a couple of times a week.

Harm

He told [his family] that everything was okay when it wasn’t okay. Then all of a sudden, he was angry all the time, he was kicking off all the time. The only thing that they could think of is me because he’s changed since he’s been with me, but he hadn’t for years, he was still the same [partner]. It was literally when this gambling started and they don’t understand it. I think they think that because I’m looking after the finances, I’m controlling him and they seem to think that I’m controlling him, but if it was easy to control him, he wouldn’t gamble. I wouldn’t be in this situation, I wouldn’t be the one that’s always upset and hurting because I’m the one that does everything for him, but they don’t see that.

Harm

It’s more my family that it’s affected. Obviously, they’ve seen me breakdown. I had a point where I stayed at mum’s for the week, which is something you don’t expect to do when you are older and it strained that relationship a little… but his family should be getting involved as well. It shouldn’t always be them picking up the pieces, but his family are very much oblivious to it and they’re not really bothered unless they’re getting something out of it.

Harm

I ended up having time off work last year so I’ve got signed off sick because of the work that I do, my job is very demanding…It’s a really fast-paced environment, really pressurized environment but then I’m coming home and I’m having to deal with all the stuff with [partner] with his gambling, worrying about money, worrying whether he’s done it again. If he has done it, what do we need to do today? Who do we need to speak to today to try and resolve it? You never get that break, so it’s constant. I’ve got a three-year-old to look after, nearly three-year-old and then it’s like I’m mothering my husband as well. I just felt like take take take take take from all angles, until it just got to the point where I couldn’t cope anymore, and I had a bit of a breakdown. I got signed off sick and I was off sick for like nine weeks. I’ve never struggled as much as I have since his addiction because I don’t have that person.

Harm

He’s having to work all the hours to try and recoup money to pay off his debt so he’s still not around. Even now I obviously went back to work after that when things were a bit better, he was not gambling anymore, so our financial situation was a little bit better. Even now, it’s still having an impact because he’s working overtime constantly. Like he’s working Saturday and Sunday this week as well as the days in the week that he works, but he doesn’t see that as an issue… But he’s not around and all you ever want when you’re married to someone is to have a partnership. Someone to be there, that’s all we need, that’s what my son needs. It’s not all about buying him lots of presents, he doesn’t need lots of presents. He just wants to days out, he wants to go to the park, he wants to play in the garden.

Harm

We stopped going [to Gamblers Anonymous] and then he relapsed. Then COVID hit, so we didn’t have sessions for a bit. Last year, for example, one of his triggers was that he had to have emergency hernia operation. That would be an excuse for him to gamble, but he’d say it as though it was justifying him gambling… Our communication would breakdown then. It was communication was the only thing that was helping him as we went along. As soon as he stopped communicating, that was normally because he’d had it in his head he was going to gamble.

Recovery

We had marriage counselling about three years ago. I think it was. I got referred to Beacon counselling, which was aimed at the fact that I was an affected other because, and I’ve had counselling through work as well when it’s got a bit much because it’s not just the trust side of it. It’s all that responsibility you have with the funds and trying to make sure money’s okay and that he’s not gambling, and when he does gamble, it was always left to me to pick up the pieces.

Recovery

It’s that being able to open up and not be judged but having people in similar situations and see that you can get there. There’s people that go that one of them’s 40 odd years where they’ve not gambled, but they still go [to GA], they go religiously to the meetings. Knowing that he can get help, he can talk to people without being judged.

Recovery

Marriage counselling made him see my side. Me never being put first and things like that. Just to see it as me, that’d be my problem and he didn’t realize what he was doing. Gamblers Anonymous was probably the best thing he ever did was because he’s got people going through it, people that actually understand. A lot of counsellors aren’t equipped to deal with gambling, so it’s not really something that they’ll focus on, or understand… He’d go and he’d never really address that issue, never really explained to him where the addiction comes from, how it happens, how to deal with it sort of thing.

Recovery

There is help available for you. You don’t have to be responsible for that person. They have to be responsible for themselves… You need to look after yourself in the meantime. There’s help for you as well… There are people out there that you can talk to, and they can give you advice. And don’t feel like you have to deal with it alone.

Recovery

Don’t be afraid to tell people. If you’re getting judged, they’re not the people that you want to talk to, but there are people out there that you can speak to that won’t judge you. You don’t have to be strong all the time. You need support just as much as they do. If you want to stick by them, then that’s great because that will help them. If you don’t, it’s not selfish to walk away either.

Recovery

There should be more restrictions. The difficult thing is what I’ve seen is things like when you want to self-exclude yourself from a gambling site so you can’t use it. They’ll ask you why, and then they’ll give you a chance to say how long you want to exclude for. They can see if somebody’s gambling too much. I know they do the whole when the Fun Stops Stop. When you’re a compulsive gambler, you don’t realize that it’s not fun anymore… If they realize that somebody’s gambling a lot, there should be something that flags up, and then they should be able to cut them off.

Change

I just want doctors to be able to know where to send them. Not necessarily doctors need to treat them but being able to point them in the right direction. Them having an awareness of it being an addiction… Not just throw tablets at it, maybe give them the tablets in the short term, but be able to point them in the right direction.

Change

With counsellors too, if they’re not aware of it, be trained in addiction, but not just for alcoholics and people that are drug dependent… If you go to the doctors and them being able to recognize that you have got an issue and where to point you. If you’ve been referred for counselling that the counsellor has some knowledge around addiction and specifically gambling. Be able to pick up the signs.

Change

I’ve always had problems with my mental health, but I’ve never struggled with it as much as I have since [partner’s] addiction has come to light because he’s the one person that you think in a marriage that you can talk to, and you can go to. When you’ve not got trust in that person, and if that person’s going through it at the time, and they’re snapping at everything, they’re blaming you for everything, you feel alone. I don’t do a lot of things, I’m not as outgoing as I used to be. I’m stressed all the time. I’m worrying about money constantly.

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I have a son to look after as well at night. Even when he’s like now the minute where he’s not gambling, he’s having to work all the hours to try and recoup money to pay off his debt so he’s still not around. Even now I obviously went back to work after that when things were a bit better, he was not gambling anymore, so our financial situation was a little bit better.

Even now, it’s still having an impact because he’s working overtime constantly. Like he’s working Saturday and Sunday this week as well as the days in the week that he works, but he doesn’t see that as an issue. He sees it as, “Well, it means I can pay my debts off.” But he’s not around and all you ever want when you’re married to someone is to have a partnership. Someone to be there, that’s all we need, that’s what my son needs. It’s not all about buying him lots of presents, he doesn’t need lots of presents. He just wants to days out, he wants to go to the park, he wants to play in the garden.

He’s happy with sticks and stones, like running around and splashing in puddles but he doesn’t see it like that. He just sees it as well, I’m earning all this money now and it’s like well we don’t even see it. We don’t benefit from it. We don’t have nice holidays and fancy cars or anything, it is literally he is paying it to pay these debts off. He’s burning himself into the ground because he’s working all hours. I am getting worn out because it’s just me going to work, coming home, being a mum and that’s it. Go to bed, get up, start again. There’s no time for me. There’s no time for us.

My mum takes our son out every other weekend and that eventually started last year when he’d had his last relapse. That was so we could spend time together to talk but we don’t even have that now, because he’s working. It’s difficult.

Clare
Harm

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