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Lee

Lee is the full-time carer to his son. He first started gambling when he was 14 or 15. He looked old for his age and so was able to buy scratch cards. Lee experienced severe trauma when his daughter was stillborn. Complications during the birth of his son triggered an emotional response due to his previous traumatic experience. This caused his gambling to escalate rapidly over a two-month period. He attended Gamblers Anonymous for 18 months but relapsed after experiencing multiple stressors. 

When he started gambling again, he said something was different and he no longer felt that gambling provided an escape. This took him to a very dark place, and he tried to take his own life. 

Afterwards, Lee started to re-attend Gamblers Anonymous and found that he was engaging more with the programme. Lee says that the bereavement support he received helped him to process and manage the emotions around the bereavement of his daughter. He still suffers from anxiety and depression, but he no longer experiences the same suicidal thoughts as he once did. Lee is very passionate about raising awareness of the harm that gambling can cause, and he has also set up a Gamblers Anonymous group in his local area. 

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I think it’s quite hard to explain to someone that hasn’t had any addiction problems the feelings that come up because I don’t think there’s anything that you can compare it to or replicate to get that sort of empathy from them, really, if they haven’t experienced that compulsion, that need, that desire, that waking up at two o’clock in the morning shaking because you haven’t put a bet on or you can’t find five pounds to put your next bet on. I think it’s quite hard to actually explain to someone that feeling without them having experienced it themselves, really. I think it’s quite difficult to get… because a lot of people, I mean, a lot of people were very understanding these days of addiction and how it entails. But some people aren’t educated in how it actually manifests, as some people do still see it as a choice, a lifestyle choice. You’re choosing to put this bet on. It’s not a choice. There was no choice. The choice for me to be able to gamble went out the window long, a long, long time ago. It’s quite… the fun stops stop slogan is quite disrespectful, really because they’re implying that it was fun, and it is fun. And if you’ve got a problem then you should stop. You can’t stop. It stopped being fun for me a long, long time ago, but I couldn’t stop. I couldn’t stop and it took me, it took me a long time to actually realize that it was a problem.

Lee
Stigma
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The word I use a lot is hope. There is hope out there. There is hope that you can get away from the unrelenting nature of the compulsion. It’s by no means an easy road. But for your own health, for your family’s health, for anyone that’s related to you or has contact with you, for your mental health, accessing the support as early as possible is crucial. If you feel like it might be starting to become a problem, it already is a problem. So, get the support before it’s too late

Lee
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I have previously accessed local sort of psychological support, but it’s very limited in what they offer. Counselling services, they give you two free sessions and you’re on your way. You’re sorted, you’re fixed. Which yeah, it was very obvious that a lot of things were deep rooted and that didn’t really work for me. A lot of it was CBT based, cognitive therapy based, and that just didn’t work for me in my illogical brain. CBT is a very logical, methodical process you think about think about your sort of affliction, so to speak, or you think about your mood and you’re more aware of your mood that that sort of approach didn’t work for me because I was too blinkered too far in the darkness to be able to see any, any sort of support like that. So, I did access counselling services, but they didn’t have any effect whatsoever on me because I was still actively gambling when I was accessing them.

Lee
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And I slipped off to the bookies round the corner and like I say, I was 18 at that point. So, I had just recently been able to get access to loans and credit cards and things like that, and I recently got a loan for a car and a credit card. And it was in the space of, I think it was even before the half time whistle had come in the actual game and so in the space of sort of half an hour, I had maxed out my credit cards at the bookmakers. Me and my friends had had a weekend away planned. We were going go karting and up to Alton Towers. Luckily, I had paid for the go karting and the tickets to Alton Towers before that night. So, I was still able to attend the sort of festivities, but I wasn’t really there at that point because of everything that happened. My mind was considerably elsewhere and how I’m going to get out of the hole that I’ve managed to get myself into with the loan and the credit card money gone within the space of half an hour.

Lee
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I don’t want to say it’s destroyed my life because I don’t want it to define who I am and how I lead myself in the future. But the negative impacts, the mental impacts are long lasting. I suffer a lot with depression, anxiety, social anxiety through many years of just hiding away, just gambling and not speaking to friends and not interacting with the outside world other than dropping my son to school and things like that. And I still suffer really bad with my depression and my anxiety. And obviously not all of that is because of the gambling. But I’d say the vast, vast majority of that is because of where the gambling took me and the way it coerced my brain into making these decisions and hiding away from my emotions and responsibilities really, and it’s even three and a half years into being gamble free, it’s still very, very deep rooted these feelings and these thoughts that I still have.

Lee
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I’ve set up my own Gamblers Anonymous group within my local area. And since then, I don’t feel I can never say I would never gamble again, because that would be me getting complacent with my gambling addiction, which is something I can never be at a stage because I know if I make that first bet ever again that I won’t come back from it. So, I’m very sort of resolute in that I can’t ever gamble again. Part of my brain make up may make me think that I can gamble again. So, I’ve always got to be aware and on guard of that ongoing possibility that that could trigger. So, I regularly attend Gamblers Anonymous to keep myself, keep myself aware of where I once was, and obviously it’s nice to hear other people’s stories as well to remind me of where I once was and how far I have come over the past three and a half years, really.

Lee
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And the pressure started to mount again on me to the point where I relapsed and I was gambling for about a month, two months. But it was a different type of gambling this time. Previously the sort of gambling enabled me some sort of escapism from my real-life problems, but it was clear to me from the start of that relapse that that sort of escapism wasn’t there anymore. It was just pressing the buttons for the sake of pressing buttons, emptying my bank account just because I couldn’t handle having the money in my account. I was safer losing it all than spending the majority of my time gambling it away, which sounds counterproductive but that was the sort of mentality at that time.

Lee
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I got a loan for my car and I had access to credit cards and store cards and things like that from a very… literally as soon as I turned 18, I started accessing these things and I had regular access to different funds that to me in my compulsive brain was free money because at some point I will get a big win and I will pay off all these debts and everything will be okay. Obviously, it doesn’t work like that, and it doesn’t happen like that. A compulsive gambler, no matter how much they win. That’s just extra stake money just longer that you can spend betting. I’d always convinced myself that I need X amount to be able to take my… I want to take my son to Disneyland, so I need X amount. Countless amount of times I got to a point where I had enough money in my online accounts to take him to Disneyland, but then my compulsive brain went Wow, you’ve won this amount, so maybe we can take him to Disney World rather than Disneyland and just convince myself that I was going to give him a better holiday, not just the countless amount of times that I withdrew money from the gambling sites. And then five, 10 minutes later, cancel withdrawal and carried on betting even further until I had lost the lot and then was chasing those losses and it spiralled from there, really.

Lee
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And obviously gradually the money progressed, and the amounts started to progress further and further, really. Like I say, up until the point where I got paid at 12 o’clock and 12 o’clock at night, that was a regular occurrence, I’d be checking my bank at 12 o’clock to make sure that my money or my wages had gone in. And within the space of an hour and a half my entire months’ salary had gone and I had no more options to turn to.

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And it was all triggered, basically, I was I think I was five pounds short on the monthly rent at that point, with my salary coming in. A neurotypical person without a gambling compulsion would naturally just turn round to their landlord or whatever and say Oh, I’m really sorry, I’m five pounds short on the rent this month and I’ll get you the extra five pounds within the next week or so but here is the majority of it. But me with my compulsive brain and how it worked around the gambling, I had convinced myself that that five pounds wasn’t going to be made up or matched unless I gambled with the rest and my my intentions were sort of, I’ll put £10 on here, I’ll win 20 pounds and I’ll have five pounds to gamble with and I’ll have the 15 pounds to match up the rent. I’m sure you’ve heard many stories that that wasn’t the case and that didn’t happen because £10 just crept into £20 and £30 and before I knew it the entire month’s salary was gone. Like I say, within the space of an hour and a half, two hours.

Lee
Gambling Experiences
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And I was transferring £10, £10, £10 out of the joint account because in my head it was just £10 and then I’d make it to… and each time in the space of like I say in the space of an hour and a half, the entire month’s wages was gone in £10 transactions. So however, many transactions equates to 70, 80 plus £10 transactions. Which looking back as a gambling operator, that’s surely a worrying sign that someone’s transferring eight, nine hundred pounds in £10 deposits in the space of an hour and a half. That’s surely a worrying sign. That probably equates to about £10 every five minutes or something, which is insane. But that’s the mentality of it, unfortunately. Like I say, there was nowhere I could hide, and it was blatantly obvious from the account transactions what was happening and how it was happening.

Lee
Gambling Companies
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I was a lone parent since my son’s been one years old and when he was about one and a half, I had to give up work at that point because I had sole custody of him. So I was at home, home every day looking after him, taking care of him. And obviously my access to going to the slot machines and going into the bookmakers was very limited. You can’t take children into those, into those sort of places. So, it quickly became apparent to me that I could access this online. It was sort of, I think it was around 2008, 2009 that I started accessing the online side of gambling, which was quite easy for me to access and quickly became an easy feature for me. My son would be happily playing away with his toys, and I could be sat there on the laptop, betting away.

Lee
Gambling Companies

There’s very limited support available currently. There’s two gambling specific rehab clinics in the entire country at the moment and one’s just opened up in Southampton as well. But the other two are very far up north, which for my locality, that’s just not an option. I think better training for NHS professionals to be able to diagnose compulsive gambling or problem gambling as an illness. It is an illness. It’s recognized by Public Health England as an illness, so it should be treated in such a way.

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But when smartphones became more readily available and the apps became more readily available, that’s when it seriously sort of ramped up further and further. And the further I got into it, obviously, the further I got into the addiction and the further the compulsion pulled me into making more rash decisions than I previously would have and ramping up the stakes further than I would have initially been making and it grew and grew and grew over the years.

Gambling Companies

The sports bets I would put on or horse bets I would put on would be ridiculous accumulators where I’d put 10p down and win a couple of million pounds, never going to come through in a million years, but that was the type of betting in terms of sports betting and horse betting. That’s how my sort of… because it was too short lived or there was too longer wait for the outcome with the sports betting really, for me. Just waiting three minutes, five minutes for a horse race to finish just wasn’t instant enough for me. Whereas with the slots, it’s very much you press the button and the outcome’s there straightaway.

Gambling Companies

I’ve got as many blocks in place as I physically can have in place. I’ve got bank blocks and email blocks and all sorts, but I still I still get adverts. I get the postcode lottery coming through my door, being forced in my face. I’ve got no choice of that coming through my door. That doesn’t fall under the remit of the gambling blocks that you can put in place. You have to contact them separately to say don’t send me these because I’m a compulsive gambler, which is what I’ve had to do. Which it shouldn’t have to be like that. You wouldn’t get a sample of vodka put through your door. You wouldn’t get a bag of heroin put through your door.

Gambling Companies

It needs to be safer for people with gambling addiction to not be targeted. 70% or 60 to 70% of gambling profits come from the 5% of compulsive gamblers or at-risk gamblers. At risk gamblers aren’t people that might be a compulsive gambler, might not. They’re at risk of it becoming a serious problem. They’re already at the stage where they’re at the point where they probably can’t turn back. It’s not fun anymore, but they can’t stop. The vast majority of the at-risk group are already way, way into the hole at that point. So, I think when that amount of profit comes from people that are vulnerable and being targeted… it’s relentless. It’s everywhere.

Gambling Companies

I think it’s quite hard to explain to someone that hasn’t had any addiction problems the feelings that come up because I don’t think there’s anything that you can compare it to or replicate to get that sort of empathy from them, really, if they haven’t experienced that compulsion, that need, that desire, that waking up at two o’clock in the morning shaking because you haven’t put a bet on or you can’t find £5 to put your next bet on. I think it’s quite hard to actually explain to someone that feeling without them having experienced it themselves, really.

Gambling Experiences

Everything so far that I’ve experienced, it’s all outside organisations, charitable organisations that have set up because they know the harm that comes from the addiction. They know about it, so they’ve set it up off their own back to be able to offer that support and offer that avenue of support for compulsive gamblers. It shouldn’t be that. It should be the government act and they put these actual proper NHS blocks or help and support in place. Not to say that people shouldn’t attend Gamblers Anonymous because it’s an outside organization because a compulsive gambler I feel should attend as much as they possibly can to access the support wherever possible. But I think more needs to be put in place from a medical point of view to support the addiction. It’s recognised as an illness by Public Health England. Why is it not treated in such a way?

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It’s relentless. It’s everywhere. You get the adverts all the time and I’ve got as many blocks in place as I physically can have in place. I’ve got bank blocks and email blocks and all sorts, but I still get adverts. I get the postcode lottery coming through my door, being forced in my face. I’ve got no choice of that coming through my door. That doesn’t fall under the remit of the gambling blocks that you can put in place. You have to contact them separately to say don’t send me these because I’m a compulsive gambler, which is what I’ve had to do. It shouldn’t have to be like that. You wouldn’t get a sample of vodka put through your door. You wouldn’t get a bag of heroin put through your door.

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