Recovery
Recovery (person who gambled perspective)

Experiences with treatment

People describe their experiences of treatment and support services, both for themselves and the person who gambled. These include general practitioners (GPs), mental health, and emergency services, as well as the National Gambling Treatment Service. Some accessed counselling through their employer, and some parents paid for private counselling for their children.

People describe challenges in getting support for themselves and the person who gambled. Many are unsure where to find help and often turn to the internet for information. Some discover a lack of local support services. Others face high costs for private treatment. Some say the support was stopped too soon. They describe the need for a range of help, for mental health, but also with financial and practical issues. Some said that there was little support specifically for children affected by gambling.

Often, they prioritise getting help for the gambler before seeking support for themselves. Over time, many come to realise that they or their children also need help as they have experienced extensive harm.

Partners

Some partners did not seek support for themselves, instead focusing on getting help for the person who gambled. Often it was only later that partners realised the impact on them and the need for help for themselves. Others reported that help for themselves was hard to access or was about the needs of the person who gambled rather than addressing their own needs.

Many partners are trying to hold households together. This means it is crucial that support includes practical steps on how they can address the consequences of gambling, such as debt or managing finances.

Some highlighted the importance of accessing professional support independent of their partner, where the help was specifically tailored for them. Alternately, some were positive about going to relationship counselling where they felt their needs were heard and understood.

He got looked after by one set of people. I got looked after by another set of people, and it helped us both really because I think sometimes when you’re in a relationship or you’re married, whether you’re living with someone, people see you like a double act, don’t they?

I think the marriage counselling was really good, because it was us together and it was being able to actually have him listen to my side, but also me listen to his side because you get very much, what about me? What about me? I’m like that, and then he’s like that. We’re all like, well, you don’t support me, I don’t support you. Having that mediation, somebody in between us giving us the chance to speak and listen meant that we opened up more. We understood a little bit about why we are the way we are, why we’re feeling the way we’re feeling, giving us a chance to talk and listen, not just talk at each other or argue.

I’d say the Beacon counselling I had a few months back because that was aimed at affected others and the actual compulsive gambler. When you go for counselling, they don’t necessarily look at that. If [partner] went for counselling, they’d talk about his past and stuff. If I went for counselling, they’d talk about stuff, but they wouldn’t address the actual gambling. It’s always we need to talk about why you’re angry and this, that, and the other. It was never, why do you gamble or what leads to that? This was tailored to that reason, so I had lots of practical things for my counselling. For example, when [partner] gambles, I worry about money. It was things like practical steps to make a list now while things are in an okay position of support that you can get. For example, I was in the union, go to the union, there was sittings in the past having these steps, when it happens, I’m not being reactive. I’ve got things in place already, like the security steps, and also it’s having somebody listen to me and how it’s affecting me and not going, but it’s not their fault because they’ve got this illness. It’s not right what they’re doing and you need to challenge that. I struggled with counselling, when they just talk about things, whereas these were practical steps that I could put in place to know that I’m okay and also knowing that I can access it again if I need to.

It was just having somebody that had the experience in that area, because a lot of counsellors don’t. When you talk about gambling, they don’t really touch on that. They’ll touch on other addictions, but gambling is not really something that everybody’s aware of how bad it can affect somebody and the people that they love.

Clare

We had marriage counselling about three years ago. I think it was. I got referred to Beacon counselling, which was aimed at the fact that I was an affected other because, and I’ve had counselling through work as well when it’s got a bit much because it’s not just the trust side of it. It’s all that responsibility you have with the funds and trying to make sure money’s okay and that he’s not gambling, and when he does gamble, it was always left to me to pick up the pieces.

Marriage counselling made him see my side. Me never being put first and things like that. Just to see it as me, that’d be my problem and he didn’t realize what he was doing. Gamblers Anonymous was probably the best thing he ever did was because he’s got people going through it, people that actually understand. A lot of counsellors aren’t equipped to deal with gambling, so it’s not really something that they’ll focus on, or understand… He’d go and he’d never really address that issue, never really explained to him where the addiction comes from, how it happens, how to deal with it sort of thing.

Some said that although they were offered many different types of support, but these were not provided for long enough.

First time around I feel I had absolute real, quick, positive. The night he was arrested, the kids, my mum and dad drove over middle of the night, took them home with them. I went and stayed at my friend’s around the corner because I wanted to be local because the police had to be. I had police protection people, I had domestic violence people, I had social housing, I had everybody give me a call. I ended up getting help with Safer Places and they got me back in the home.

The police, sadly– I won’t say stupidly because they have been good to me, bailed my husband back to this address on that occasion so I couldn’t come home with the kids because that’s where he was. It took a real couple of weeks with a free women’s help solicitor to get him out of the house so we could get back in again so the kids could go back to school. That was the main concern because my parents live 25 miles away so we couldn’t get the kids to school. So that was that. And then I did get offered counselling. I had counselling through my GP’s surgery. I also spent some time talking to GamCare counsellors I found online and that was all quite good to a point that I would say three weeks in and it all went dead. There was nothing.

But I kept going to my GP’s counselling session because they first said I could have six, but when obviously it all came out, they kindly gave me 12. So for 12 weeks I saw them once a week but all the other stuff that was offered or not offered, but the people that were around just disappeared so quickly.

Julie

Sometimes, for affected others, accessing support felt overwhelming, or they believed it wasn’t the right time to seek help, especially if they had only recently discovered the person’s gambling difficulties.

I went to his first GA meeting with him. Two guys stood outside afterwards for an hour in the freezing cold and pouring rain just telling me, “You’ve got protection measures in place, you’ve got to check his phones, you’ve got to control the money. You’ve got to deal with this stuff.” I was so overwhelmed.

We both sought some counselling I think through GamCare, we had that obviously separately. He really didn’t engage with it. He didn’t like it. He didn’t find it was beneficial for him. He found it quite frustrating. He took his Mum with him for a couple of sessions so that she could sort of see from his perspective, why he does things. I did complete the course. But again, I think for me, I think it was a case of maybe the right thing, but at the wrong time, because I was still very confused and not really sure what I needed to do… But we did it because we were both willing to try anything.

I tried joining one of those Gam-Anon meetings one night. Oh my God, it was awful. It was awful. I stayed for half an hour. It was an online one. I stayed for half an hour and just disconnected and said never again. I found out more harmful than anything else… They was just a bunch of angry women. It was also a 12 steps meeting, so it was all about their failings. I just sat there looking absolutely baffled, but couldn’t believe some of the things I was hearing.

Not all affected others seek formal support or treatment. Some feared being misunderstood or expected counsellors to advise ending their relationship. Others did not think they needed help or that it would be right for them. Many only realise the need for support themselves after the person had stopped gambling.

I guess I’ve scoffed at him, trying to encourage him to go to counselling and stuff and him not wanting to. When I sit and think about it by myself, I also have those kinds of thoughts of I know what the problem is. At that point in time, I felt like if I had gone to someone, they would have said, “I feel like you need to get out of this relationship.” I knew that, and I just couldn’t bring myself to do it… What are they going to tell me that I don’t already know?

I haven’t sought any kind of therapy or peer support, because I actually don’t feel I need it. I think I’m probably in the minority, because I’m fortunate that I’ve lived with the addiction for so long. I’m secure and knowledgeable enough in myself to not have to go to peer support at the minute… Maybe I get my peer support from being able to help with these research projects. Maybe that’s my peer support in a way.

I read lots. I did phone GamCare once, I think, but I don’t know. The point I really need help is the point where I go really quiet, but that’s my personality rather than anyone else’s. The fault lies with me and no one else. Talking to [Friend] really and whinging at my nail technician once a fortnight. She’s lovely.

We attended Gamblers Anonymous, made the GP aware of his addiction. Immediate family were told basics as were some close friends. They were proud of him as I was. However I did not seek help myself as I thought I was fine. I was oblivious to my needs… I continued to give all I had to repair the damage the compulsive gambler had caused… In hindsight, I should have sought help at this critical time.

I haven’t done anything like that. I guess more generally I’ve never received counselling or therapy for anything. I guess this all just becomes such a part of your daily life in that creeping up way. As we sit and talk about it now, it feels like, whoa, actually, like that’s big. You’ve really been through something, but when you’re just living it every day, it’s just your life. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to speak to anyone.

The year before I graduated, I had a bit of breakdown. I’ll be honest, it literally just hit me all of a sudden that I’d not really dealt with my Nana and that kind of just taken on this new role, this new life, and I needed to look after me.

I’d realized that I’d become really complacent over like the gambling stuff. I wasn’t really checking [partner’s] receipts as much anymore. I wasn’t asking him about cash. I wasn’t pushing him, not pushing him, encouraging him to go to GA because sometimes he’d make an excuse to not go that week for whatever reason if he’d had a busy week at work, and that’s fair enough. But sometimes then when he got out of going, he found it hard to get back into going again and he’d need a bit of encouragement. I’d stop doing that. I’d literally just all I could think about was this hole that I was in and how to get out of it.

And at that point, I did go to my GP, and they diagnosed with depression. I had some counselling and then since then I’ve been alright. But yeah, that was sort of my breaking point at that point. It wasn’t immediate. It was further down the line, and it was obviously a result of everything else that had gone on, too.

Charlotte

The support for the person who gambled could have a big impact on affected others. Affected others often say that when the person tries to get help via their GP, from mental health, or emergency services, they do not receive the help they need. Some face challenges with access, duration and few support options. Where the person who gambled was helped by the support, this could also help affected others.

He went to the cognitive behavioural therapist, who was fantastic, and he was really good with me as well. He met with me a couple of times as well and he was great. He gave [husband] some really good coping strategies just around how he was, and he’s thought patterns, really, how he thought and what he thought. hat what was good, as well, and that really helps, that helped [husband] a lot and in turn helped me.

He knew that he was also a danger to himself. It just sort of couldn’t continue, he had to do something. He’s actually mentioned that he had a trip to the hospital. He mentioned that he’d hanged himself, and the male nurse didn’t actually offer any here’s who you can go and talk to. Or anything. After that, I was like, what can we find for him… it was a bit of pillar to post sort of thing.

He’d gone to GA. But other than that, he was visited by a counsellor in the hospital when he was admitted after the suicide attempt, and they basically said, why did you do it? And he said, because of this and they said, Right, OK, are you going to do it again? And he said, no. And that was it. It was never followed up. I think he got some antidepressants from the doctor and like I say, he just went to GA. And he also at that point, he entered into a debt relief order for the debt because there was quite a lot at that point. So, he’d kind of dealt with it. The debt part of it was dealt with. His Mum took control of his money. He moved back in with her. But then after a few months, he just got all his money back and then just went back to his old life essentially.

I’d given him loads of leaflets for GamCare, everybody, so many over the years. Got so much stuff in place and he wouldn’t admit he had a problem with gambling, and he would never, ever admit he had a mental health problem. I used to make him so angry and he just used to say it was me, I was mental. That’s all he used to say. To think he could have got help.

In Northern Ireland when we were really trying to find support, I felt like there were things in England or in mainland UK anyway that we just didn’t have here. In terms of actual physical centres, I think was the– is it like Gordon Moody, looking for things like that. I know, is it in Manchester, you have a big new shiny support centre? If there was something like that here, that really would’ve changed our lives.

Some felt their partners sought support merely to appease them, without benefiting from it.

He was in denial and said “it was all in the past” and told me that it was my problem. I doubt he gained much from attending GA meetings – again saying he only attended them to pacify me. He said he didn’t need to go as he wasn’t as addicted or lost what others had in the group, another instance of his excuses and denial.

Parents and siblings

Parents often take on the role of getting support for their child who is gambling. For some, the treatment their child received was not suitable, leading them to seek private treatment, which can be very expensive.

We had arranged for him, to go to the National Addiction Clinic during that period, which as he would say himself, he wasn’t ready for it. So, whilst he’d gone there, he really wasn’t getting any value from it. We had paid for him to go and see someone who potentially could discuss trying to change behaviours. And again, we’d had some hope… But the reality was that he was struggling with it day-to-day but managing day-to-day during that.

It was her that, as I said, organised him to go to GA rooms, and I’m so grateful for my wife for doing that… she organized for him to go privately to get that done only recently. She’s been a key person in initiating, I would say, possibly the three key steps in what was needed to help [son].

We got him to a therapist, who one of her things was she specialized in addiction. Again, absolute waste of time and money, because what she did, she got [son] to do a spreadsheet, so, “What I want you to do, [son], after this session for a week, I want you to keep a spreadsheet, and on that spreadsheet, track your money gambled. What comes in, what you gamble out, your wins, your losses and then bring me that spreadsheet back.” What [son] did, he just did a spreadsheet full of utter nonsense, gave it back to her, and she said, “Oh, well-done. You haven’t bet much this week, have you?”

We were so fortunate that we have an amazing psychiatrist, who got him into The Priory, and there was never any thought about what help do we need as a family. There was never anything signpost to us until [son] went into The Priory, which was a year and four months ago.

He came out of The Priory in January 2022. There was never– Even when he went into The Priory, he went into The Priory, and was treated as an alcoholic. They did not treat him as a gambling addict. Despite the fact that he was very open about the fact that he was a complex addict, they gave him his mobile phone. While in detox for alcoholism, he was placing bets from The Priory, which really defeats the point of the issue.

That’s a huge bugbear I have, that there is not enough signposting, or support for gambling in particular. There is so much for drug and alcohol and eating disorders, and there should be. But he goes into The Priory. We weren’t given any support. We dropped our son off. Literally, three days before Christmas, we walked away. His dad and I, in absolute devastation, we were told there was an online support group that ran every other Monday or Wednesday,] I can’t remember now.

We weren’t sent home with any leaflets or numbers or anything. We were just stood in this car park, dropped our son off, paying a lot of money. It’s £30,000 plus. We were given nothing. Then, to find out that they put him through detox, which is brilliant and that’s horrendous in itself. Yet, he’s in the bathroom with his mobile phone placing bets. Great, that’s brilliant, The Priory.

It’s not until now, where I’ve done my own research that I found GamLEARN and GamCare, and Betknowmore, and you’re not given this, The Priory did not give us one single piece of information or support for us to find help to learn more about gambling addiction. They referred us to go to the family support of AA. I don’t need support with [son]’s alcoholism. I’m okay with that, but it would have, perhaps, been nice to have had somewhere to have gone, to have been with like-minded people that we could discuss the gambling because it’s so not spoken about, isn’t it?

No, there was no support, no signposting anywhere. It isn’t till now, and now I look back and I think if 10 years ago, if I’d had some of this help where I could have gone, and sought outside information, maybe we wouldn’t have got to a point where we nearly lost our son, because we didn’t know what to do with him. I think there needs to be more discussion, more openness, more help.

Michelle

Instead of seeking formal treatment or support, one sibling mentioned relying on peer support and extensive reading.

Not for myself. I did consider it at times. It’s complicated. During the time I didn’t, I just used that peer support and that was to that Ok in terms of that at the time and part of the support. After he died, again, my friend was really great in terms of he was really practical, because you can imagine the level of bills and the level of people who are contacting. I read a lot around general stuff. I already had a lot of experience around that suicide loss kind of thing… I haven’t needed to look for anything specific, but equally, I can see how I could have ended up needing to do that.

They also observed that their brother was deterred by the stigma associated with gambling from seeking support through the NHS. They said finding help was challenging.

He wouldn’t go to anything through a GP or anything like that. Actually, there’s very little out there otherwise. Even through GPs, I don’t think there’s much, but it’s actually quite– I remember looking and thinking, well, what could I find for him. Actually, there’s not much out there, is there, that’s specific for that?

Children

People whose parents who gambled and received counselling for related issues said that the counselling services did not pick up on or directly address gambling harm.

I have been to counselling once which was unrelated to gambling. Well, obviously it was related but gambling just never came up. Perhaps it wasn’t the best of experiences. It felt like obviously, if I didn’t mention gambling, then I think they kind of didn’t understand a lot of it because the big context in my whole life has been gambling.

Parents described the challenges in obtaining help and support for children affected by another’s gambling, facing lack of availability, suitable options or long waiting lists.

[Son] he had to wait quite a long time for his counselling. We never really have had any issues. We were quite good at chatting, quite open, but there was, I knew he had stuff. I knew that stuff wasn’t my right to poke at. So he has been having, I think he’s gone [to counselling] about five or six weeks now… He seems to have, although he’s come back quite upset and quite angry on a couple of occasions, he seems to have worked through some stuff that I feel it has been of benefit to him.

Nothing happened for the kids. I kept ringing other charities asking. I got some help through GamCare, a really good lady that talked to me for quite a few weeks. My daughter got thankfully offered something through work where she got a number of weeks free and then some discounted counselling with the same person, which has helped her.

My son was the one who kept saying he didn’t need it the most. Which obviously then kept me thinking, well maybe you do but he was the one that was the hardest to get help for and like I said, we did get like social services or the school because he was a school at that time just doing his– had he just done? No, he’d have been just going into his GCSE year, I think. Anyway, he got a little bit of stuff come through from school. But again, there wasn’t hardly anything, hardly anything and it was just weird. He was such a different– it was amazing.

It was a different experience, but I got less– I wasn’t looking for offers of help because I’m in a different position now. So obviously I knew a lot, I was a lot wiser to what I needed to do or people I needed to speak to or where I needed to go for help but it’s still not really easy because there was still a couple of charities that I know people from really well that I’d rung and asked specific questions and they said, “Do you know what? I actually don’t know if we have someone that can answer that question,” so I don’t know. It’s just that– but you could probably say that for everything. You could probably say for all, all addictions, all charities, all people affected, there’s never– if things were perfect, these things wouldn’t happen, and we are really trying hard to make better situations out there for everyone who goes through the same thing, and maybe, hopefully, in time we will be able to. I know there’s definite holes in our trying still that we need to fill. Because, as I say, he didn’t get any help at all.

Julie

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